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PTO woes!!!

18 years 10 months ago #113386 by mar-10
Replied by mar-10 on topic RE: PTO woes!!!
Thanks again to all who replied. I like the postitive responses! I really need that!!

I had some things wrote down to bring up to the board members at our last meeting. I had called one member and told her what I was bringing up at our "pre-meeting", well, we had 1 other officer show up to our "pre-meeting" besides my self. The other officers didn't show up until the regular meeting, and they were not very friendly to me, and as SOON as the meeting was over, they scooted out the door. I have a feeling someone found out about what I was going to say prior to the meeting. Our president also kept saying "It was brought to my attention that......." and it was someting that I was going to say at our "pre-meeting".

Anyway- I'm going to come up with a survey for the next meeting, and I'd really like to send it home to all of the kids, since every parent can be a part of the PTO. I'm going to also come up with a mission statement and by laws-which I don't think we have, or can you have an organization with out by laws??

I can't honestly imagine doing something for the teachers EVERY MONTH. I mean really, "teachers have good salaries, and they get so much anyway, why should we do things for them??" (a quote from one of our board members) and to give them $100! What really are you thinking!!?? ;) I would love for our PTO to do that, without it being a big ordeal!

Oh, another thing. We have to carry our own liability insurance. Is that common practice? We pay $600 for 6 months and use it basically 2 times-once for the carnival, and once for the book fair. I was just curious if everyone else did this, or if the school's insurance should (or would)cover our activities.

Thanks again!!

martin
18 years 10 months ago #113385 by nmooney
Replied by nmooney on topic RE: PTO woes!!!
after reading all of the replies a few things came to mind immediately: 1. last year we changed our bylaws to include three additional voting board members on the pto. The school administrator, an elementary teacher and a middle school teacher. They are voting members on all issues, this simple change has opened up the lines of communication and responsibility in a very positive way. 2. hold parents accountable for their actions. i have reminded our parents that they set the example to their children of appropriate behavior. if they leave the house complaining about other parents, the kids take away a very negative message. stand up and live by your own example, be accountable for your actions.

I don't think raising a parents group on the side to overthrow the other group is the way to move forward. Take a step back, organize and communicate the mission with your board and membership before standing up and moving in the direction of positive change.
18 years 10 months ago #113384 by mjsaddington
Replied by mjsaddington on topic RE: PTO woes!!!
Here's our "mission statement" from oue by-laws
The objective of the Parent-Teacher Organization shall be:

To bring into closer relation the home and the school, that parents may cooperate intelligently in the training of the child;

To promote the welfare, well-being, and education of children and youth in home, school, and community;

To promote and support laws for the care and protection of children and youth;

To develop between educators and the general public such united efforts as will secure for every child the highest advantages in physical, mental, and social education.
18 years 10 months ago #113383 by mjsaddington
Replied by mjsaddington on topic RE: PTO woes!!!
Sounds like a leadership problem.

So, stage a coup...(just kidding.....sort of)

Just as a good coach can make or break a team, that's what the leaders can do to your group.

You need to get some people in there who want to IMPROVE things, not just complain. It's too late for this year, probably, but for next year, try to recruit some positive, pro-active people. You can find these by asking the teachers about parents who were really involved and helpful in their classes.

For this year, find some like-minded people in the PTO (if you can --- do this outside the meetings, in private) who want to accomplish things. Start building bridges with the teachers. Go to the Principal and make yourselves available to help the teachers.

Prepare for the meetings with an idea that you know has support from others, propose it in a non-threatening way to the group, be enthusiastic and positive (DO NOT be negative or know-it-all), when others attack the idea, just say, "Thanks for your input, you make a valid point, but just look at the up-side of this idea!!" and list the positives. Start with something small, build on it.

Remember this, you can be "right" all you want, but if you alienate everyone who could help you or work with you, you will not get ANYTHING done.

Bring refreshments to the next meeting, along with your best smile.

There will be some on the board who are just there for the DRAMA, cut down on the drama, don't allow it (maybe they will quit if it isn't exciting enough!).

ALWAYS REMEMBER WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH! You may have to bite your tongue.

I am very lucky to be the President of our PTO this year. Last year many of our group quit because of one or two people (who ALSO quit -- a good thing). I came close to quitting myself, but them I had to ask myself, what am I really here for? The answer was, "to help make this a great school for the kids." So, those of us who were there to do a job, stayed. And we did just fine.

I live in a small town in Virginia (14,000) and our Primary school has about 550 students and 71 staff (44 teachers). We have most of our meetings during the day. The principal always attends. We almost never have teachers attend, but that has never bothered us (after all, they are teaching during the day) -- I personally do not expect them to attend at night, either. I think they have enough to do just to teach.

We do have a mission statement -- boiled down, it is to create the best learning envronment for our kids.

We are lucky to have a VERY good relationship with the teachers. I think that is in part because we leave them alone to teach, we don't expect them to be our workhorses, we do small jobs for them (materials prep, collection of fees), we NEVER spend time in PTO meetings criticizing the teachers -it just isn't done, we show them appreciation throughout the year (small tokens or something larger), and we provide volunteers for the classroom when they need them.

We have a welcome back luncheon when they are preparing the week before school starts.

We give each teacher an allotment of $100 at the beginning of the year to spend as they see fit. We give the money to the school and the teachers turn in their receipts to the principal for reimbursement.

We have some type of teacher appreciation almost every month -- salad/baked potato lunch, a cookie "exchange" (well, they just come and select the cookies we have baked) before Christmas, a soup lunch, pies before Thanksgiving, Breakfast on the run (water and a muffin) for the first day of school, etc.

We are lucky to have a town that expects a high quality education for a very low price -- they are tight with their money, but they DO pay for all the essentials and more. We have 5 computers in each classroom (Average class size 20) and 40 more computers in the enrichment classrooms.

Be Brave.
Remember your mission.
Be kind to the teachers.

Mary Jane
18 years 10 months ago #113382 by ShelleyRud
Replied by ShelleyRud on topic RE: PTO woes!!!
Afew years ago I went to PTO meetings and was very frustrated because it seemed like my ideas were shot down all the time. They never had an agenda or a treasurer's report, we were always asking how much money to we have. Then I made a suggestion that the board didn't like but the rest of the people did. We voted on it and I was put in charge of a Father/Daughter Dance that was free. We had an unbeleivable turnout. The principal was so impressed.
After that some of my suggestion were taken more seriously along with other peoples. The next election I was voted President and we had only one old officer stay. The Treasurer waited to the first meeting after that and quit at the end of the meeting, becuase I asked for a written treasurers report.
I can tell you we have appreciated or staff regularly with breakfasts and other things. We now have an equal number of parents and staff members coming to meeting that we manage to keep to 1-1 1/2 hours. Our support is wonderful. Keep trying to make changes and don't give up.
18 years 10 months ago #113381 by kelleyraek
Replied by kelleyraek on topic RE: PTO woes!!!
Martin...
Hang in there! When I was a kindergarten mom, I was battling the same kind of thing you are (combined with general PTO apathy!)... things can and DO get better. My daughter is now entering 2nd grade and our PTO has improved tremendously in just one year.
I think two seperate surveys- one for teachers, one for parents- might really help you out... The answers will help your BOARD formulate your goals. I prefer questions that require written answers... it takes longer to read them but I feel you get better information. Questions like "What do you feel the PTO should focus on this year?" and "What role do you see yourself playing in the PTO?" and "What does the PTO need to do to get you involved?" have helped us.

I do believe it is the Board's responsiblity to formulate the goals on a yearly basis. That is the first discussion we have in the spring when new officers are elected. As president, I normally put together a rough draft of what I think our goals should be and how we can accomplish them. Here is a brief summary of our goals for this year:
Proposed Goals
2005-2006

I. Continue to Increase Parent Involvement
A. Implement Three For Me
B. Work On One-on-One connections
C. Work with teachers

II. Make Madison Marvelous… The Beauty Campaign
A. Work with district to improve
maintenance issues
B. Work with teachers, student council
to form cohesive plan
C. Adopt a Plot program
D. Work with community to secure
donations

Hope this helps... best ofluck with whatever you do!
Kelley
Madison PTO
Mount Vernon, WA
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