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GOING FROM PTA TO PTO MONEY QUESTIONS

20 years 2 months ago #76045 by Rockne
Hi ellgey -

There's a couple of independent, though related, ideas here. I'm not a lawyer, so my analysis of nonprofit law is not Gospel by any means, but I can jump in on some "best practices" issues.

More or less, I think you can donate your PTA funds to your school and be OK. The larger question is: do you want the school to control your funds? Typically, my answer to that question is: "No."

In your case, it may be an easy solution for what to do witht he funds in your PTA account before you dissolve, especially if the school and your group have a basic agreement on what the funds should be used for. Know, though, that once you donate the funds, they can be used anyway the school sees fit. The super could come in the next day and take those funds for the general school budget.

Same holds true for your PTO funds and using school ID numbers for your PTO. There's some real questions about whether what your bookkeeper says is true (I suspect IRS would say no, though i haven't seen a ruling.). But more importantly, I think there are real advantages for PTOs setting up as independent. I can't tell you how many emails I get from groups where Principals or districts are controlling the PTO or PTA. True legal and financial independence helps (a lot) in that situation.

Creating a strong, independent PTO is better in the long-run for involvement. As long as you are running your funds through the school and operating as a legal non-entity, you have no legs to stand on if/when there are any issues between you and (for example) a new principal, etc.

In a nutshell, I think there's a strong chance your bookkeeper is wrong technically. And, more importantly, I think going that route is the wrong way practically even if it's OK technically.

My $0.02

PTO Today Founder
20 years 2 months ago #76044 by ellgey
I thought if we changed to PTO we had to spend down to avoid risk of losing funds in PTA account to state/national PTA. I also thought when we became a PTO, we had to get a new PTO Fed. I.D. number and apply for tax exempt status for our new PTO.

However, school bookkeeper, who gets involved now that we will be PTO, said we can use the school Fed.I.D. number and that we do not have to apply for tax exempt status for our new PTO as the school is tax exempt. Also, she says we can write a check for our remaining PTA assets and deposit it with her for the PTO. I read instructions on form for 501 3 c. it does seem to
state we can donate our funds to the school. I really am confused. I am taking over as President next year and know things have to get done beforehand and want to make sure we do it right. Please, any help would be appreciated.
Ellgy
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