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School Board Auditing PTO Funds?

20 years 5 months ago #58166 by DaveP
Replied by DaveP on topic RE: School Board Auditing PTO Funds?
Ok here is a direct answer.

No!

Is that enough or do you need an explaination :D

The PTO/PTA is a seperate organization. It is NOT a part of the department of education, the school board, or even the school. The school board has NO authority over it, except to the extent that the PTO uses school facilities under the rules established for such use for ANY private organization (read - boy scouts, girl scouts, booster clubs, kiwanias, etc).

An Audit is a very specific and legal tool. The only agencies that have the power to audit you are tax agencies and state and federal prosecutors. If you are non profit (501(c)(3)) you are required to make certain information available to "individuals" that ask to see it concerning your financials, but you do not have to answer their questions, you do the tax mans!

This means if your school board trustee wants to see your books as a private citizen then she can, provided you are 501(c)(3) if you arent then you need to check your state laws on this, but I bet she is not entitled to see them. As the school board trustee and demanding your books to audit them in that capacity tell her to take a number and you will get back to her. Seriously tell her that you will send her a copy of your annual audit at the end of the business year as a curtosy but her request that the school board be permitted to audit the financials of the PTO has been disappoved as they are not an oversite agency for the PTO.

Justme, someone is overstepping their authority massively! You need to contact all the other PTO/PTAs in your area and get this under control. If you allow this to stand you will be subjecting the PTO/PTAs to government intrusion beyond their authority. Also involve your state representative. As a first step I would send a letter to who ever told you this asking to cite the legal authority for requiring this and asking for the authorization to deny PTOs access to schools who do not comply. Next, take this to the next school board meeting and make a lot of noise. The argument will run along the lines that the PTOs are not auditted and therefore it is our responsibility to do so. Ask them when they will be auditing JC Penny'sm WalMart, K-Mart, Bloomingdales and other private business' since they donate to schools across the country. Also ask who is going to pay for these "audits" of private agencies. You may wish to go in armed with some data on how much it costs to perform an audit times the number of school PTO/PTAs that will be subject to this - also the amount of time and effort it takes to do this - would that money not be better used to provide a tutoring program or othr activity that actually has an educational value? BTW I have not checked on this in a while but the average to do an audit of a small business by a government agency was somewhere around $1150 last time I looked and that is if there are no problems at all found and it takes about 50 man hours. Sounds like someone is trying to increase their staff to me. OH and invite the press to that board meeting and give them a heads up on what will be discussed, they love school board contraversy since they get so little.
20 years 5 months ago #58165 by newyorkcitymom
Replied by newyorkcitymom on topic RE: School Board Auditing PTO Funds?
Thank you both so much. I do not mind have to show our financial records as we do not have anything to hide. So I will be sure to speak to our officers to form an audit committee. Maybe this will appease the Board Secretary. Again, thanks a lot!
20 years 5 months ago #58164 by justme
Replied by justme on topic RE: School Board Auditing PTO Funds?
We were notified last year that to keep working in the schools our Board of Ed would require us to hand in financial reports quarterly. at first I was extremly angry after all what right do they have and its not their money! but after I cooled down and talked to a few people I realized that they do have the right as we are functioning through their schools and also there is the fact that anyone can ask for a copy of your financials at any time they are considered public record! An audit may be going to far but financial records does not give them control! Hope this helps
20 years 5 months ago #58163 by njmom
We are also in NJ and do not have anyone from the Board of Ed overseeing our accounts. We do however have a formal audit at the end of each school year and communicate that it was done to our parents and staff. Perhaps by putting together an audit committee and a plan to conduct your annual audit, the School Board would be less likely to make such a request.
20 years 5 months ago #58162 by newyorkcitymom
School Board Auditing PTO Funds? was created by newyorkcitymom
The President of our PTO and the Secretary of our school's Board of Trustees have worked together in the past and do not particularly care for each other. At the last School Board meeting the Secretary mentioned to the principal that he was told that someone on the school board had to monitor and audit our PTO funds. I was under the assumption that since we are considered a separate entity from the school that this did not need to be done. Does anyone know if this is true for New Jersey?
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