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retirement gifts/too much!!!

22 years 2 months ago #56698 by JHB
I guess I'm going to play a reluctant devil's advocate on this one. While, I personally would think $100 was a bit much for retirement gifts, if that's what the group decided to do, so be it.

Our PTO works very hard to eek out every dime we can for the school. Generally, we are reluctant to spend funds on anything that doesn't go directly towards the children. However, at the end of the year, our group has always given a couple of $100 gift cards towards year-end teacher awards (person selected by their peers) plus a thank you card with a $100 certificate to each the Principal and Vice Principal.

It's probably not a program I would have initiated, but it's a tradition at our school. We plan for it from the very beginning. It's right there in black and white in our budget. The membership is fine with it, so I certainly wasn't going to raise any flags. (And it can be tied back to one of our goals of school spirit and staff relations.)

We had a situation at the end of the year where some funds were proposed for a very worthy extracurricular program that only benefited 20 kids. Since we had already given them some funds, I didn't think it was appropriate. I voiced my concerns during the vote, but the majority wanted to do it. The point is, the PTO should be run by a democratic process. You have to accept the decisions of the majority.

As far as the IRS stuff goes, it's not black or white what constitutes "benefiting an individual". In the context of the thousands of dollars a PTO raises, I seriously doubt the IRS is going to blink at a $100 thank you gift. Think about it, an overly strict interpretation of that would kill most teacher appprecation programs, prizes for student contests, etc.

Although I understand your position perfectly, you ARE going to have to be careful not to be seen as an ogre if you keep this issue alive. And, you may unwittingly hurt the feelings of those who received the gifts.

If you feel you must pursue it to prevent this from becoming tradition, you might want to quietly address it one-on-one with Board members next year, suggesting an alternative gift or amount if the situation arises again.

My best advice would be to address it at one of your first Board meetings for next year when you are setting policies and making members aware of them. That would be a great time, because you are then talking about an impersonal issue, not Ms. XYZ and what her service to the school is worth. Set some guidelines on how these things are handled, a max amount, whatever. Then you have that policy to fall back on during the year.

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22 years 2 months ago #56697 by IMovePeople
Replied by IMovePeople on topic RE: retirement gifts/too much!!!
In reading old posts when I first found this awesome site - it seemed that a PTO, if it had obtained 501 status through the IRS could not hold a fundraiser for an ill student, or at the extreme even send flowers to the funeral of a child as it is supposed to be for the betterment of all and not for one. I have no problem giving a gift to a retiring teacher, please don't think I'm an ogre - but if you're looking for something to fall back on then this might be it.
22 years 2 months ago #56696 by venzmama
Replied by venzmama on topic RE: retirement gifts/too much!!!
Our bylaws do not say anything about $ limits, but it does say that any funds we raise are to be used for the children. Our school board policy DOES say that teachers are not allowed to accept personal gifts over $25. I personally feel that the amounts that were given are excessive. The PTO should not be in the business of giving bonuses and a nice gift would have been more appropriate. :cool:
22 years 2 months ago #56695 by ccmom61
retirement gifts/too much!!! was created by ccmom61
Hi all!
I loved all your ideas for retirement gifts. I wanted to go with the throws and windchimes. Our Principal made us call a special meeting to vote and choose a night when I couldn't be there. All the facts were not represented. Incoming pres said they give $100.00 cash every year which is not true. It was done last year by old president without vote or knowledge (I was V/P). Anyway they decided to give 2 retiring teachers $100.00 each and the principal $150.00 in amx gift cards. I am outraged! This money is for the betterment of the school! Could this be construed as "payment"? I don't have anything in our by-laws about "gifts" but do not want to be accountable for these actions. Thanks for your help!
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